un: black knight | text | ota

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Everything is flammable here. Since you can't use magic, please tell me there is another way to see in the dark beyond using a flame?

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UN: CrashAndBurn | Text

[skyward_eyes]

First step, find someone to live with who already has power.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

[ Unfortunately that doesn't mean much to Kalen. ]

That means living with someone and that isn't going to work.

[skyward_eyes]

Then you'll have to adjust the the careful management of fire, preferably in candle form. See the butcher, he makes tallow ones. I think there are beeswax ones too.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Candles of any variety sound like an accident waiting to happen.

[ All that needs to happen is one falling over... ]

[skyward_eyes]

Only if you're not careful. Melt a bit of wax onto a plate, use that to affix the candle to it. Or ask the smiths for a holder and a shield. I think we have someone that works glass. Maybe.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Wait, working with glass is possible without magic?

[skyward_eyes]

Of course it is. Melt down some silcia, or even sand, roll that stuff up, put it on a blowing tube. Dangerous, yeah, but like... That's how all glass was made prior to mechanization.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Okay I have no idea what 'mechanization' means first and second creating the heat needed would be something the artisan making it used a rune for.

So are other crafts that require heat possible? Is metalworking?

[skyward_eyes]

Oh boy, you're definitely from a different world. Even Bull has machines of a sort.

Yes, metalworking and glassblowing both only require a hot enough furnace I think. Which is covered at the forge. I don't know if Stark would want someone stumbling around who is actually just awed at the basic step of firing coal for long periods of time.

Still, you should check it out. Pretty basic stuff.

un: i.c. wiener

[oorah]

should be lanterns at the inn.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

The only lanterns I know of still need a flame on the wick.

[oorah]

sure but it's not open like a candle. what do you have against fire anyway? you're gonna be mighty cold if you try to go without.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

As a general rule I don't mind it, but as a general rule, I can use a rune to douse it. Here? I can't. So I find it concerning everything here is made from flammable materials and we have to use candles to see.

[oorah]

all the heating here is done with woodstoves and fireplaces. candles are the least of your fucking troubles if you want to stay alive.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Wonderful. I suppose it stays cold year-round here too.

[oorah]

no there are seasons: cold, fucking cold, rainy, kind of nice.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

So yes.

[ You can't hear it but Kalen is dissolving into cursing to himself. ]

Does cooking use flame still?

[oorah]

if you want to eat, shower and not freeze then you need fire. i suggest you get over it sooner than later.

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[justblendin]

Use a candle and walk carefully.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

It is amazing you people haven't set yourselves on fire already.

[justblendin]

Do you know people who have set themselves on fire?

[lifeofadeathseeker]

It's unrelated to this but I actually do. Since he could use magic to douse it, though, it wasn't that bad.

I'm just finding it concerning that apparently flame is used pretty liberally here but there's way too much that's flammable.

[justblendin]

You realize that is different, yes?

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Not really. That's my entire point.

un: Phryne Fisher

[fishingfortrouble]

Not that's easily carried. But candles are still an option, if you were looking.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

So I'm hearing. That's just something else holding the flame so it isn't really different.

[fishingfortrouble]

That depends on what you were looking for it to be different to.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Something different from an open flame when everything is flammable?

[fishingfortrouble]

Just because something's flammable doesn't mean that it's going to immediately catch fire. Especially not if you're careful with the flame in question.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

I'm more worried about not being able to douse a fire than how the fire starts, anyway.

[fishingfortrouble]

I'll admit that we don't have quite as much capability to handle a bigger fire as I'd like, but for most cases all the usual methods do still work.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Now I have to wonder what the 'usual methods' means.

[fishingfortrouble]

Have you never blown out a candle before?

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Yes, but you can't blow out a flame the size of a campfire. Look this all just seems like an accident - or a trajedy, - waiting to happen

[fishingfortrouble]

Well, no. But a campfire can be controlled, especially if it's something that's been set deliberately. And if you're starting with a candle there should be time to catch a fire before it grows entirely out of hand.

UN: Malik

[loyalrebel]

Some things are less easily flammable than others.

You can use the moon to see at night if you are truly against learning to mind a flame.

You can also keep all your activity to daylight hours as well.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Since heating is apparently all done with flame it's sort of a moot point.

[loyalrebel]

There are ways to keep yourself warm without fire, they just generaly involve sleeping with either animals or people and a fair few blankets.

However, fire is going to be fairly necessary if you intend to cook for yourself at all.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

I'm less worried about fire itself and more worried about being able to put it out when it spreads.

[loyalrebel]

have a bucket of dirt or sand ready, or a heavy blanket to smother it.

Do not leave a flame fully burning overnight, and keep the area around it clear of things like paper and scraps of fabric.

There are likely instructional books on it it in the library, but if you learn better by watching and doing I am sure someone can show you. It will be a couple days before I can but you are more than welcome to lessons once I have decided on the bakery to invade.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

Yes, thank you, I know fire safety. Where I came from a spellbinder would just draw a water rune if anything got out of hand. Here there is using a candle to see amidst flammable things - which is an accident waiting to happen - keeping a bucket of dirt on hand, and hoping nothing gets burnt.

[loyalrebel]

Life is mostly accidents waiting to happen.

un: Hawkealicious

[championofsnark]

You must know some clumsy people if you assume holding a candle will lead to a fire!

[lifeofadeathseeker]

I'm more worried about not being able to douse a fire than how the fire starts.

[championofsnark]

You can smother it with clothing as long as you do it quickly. Or stamp it out. I doubt any fire will spread quicker than that.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

I know basic fire safety, thank you. With all the buildings here made of flammable material, it would only take one spark. No one can use magic to douse it so using candles sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

[championofsnark]

We did have a house burn down recently. Whoever has us here helpfully gave us fire powers for a bit, to deal with mice that froze everything in sight, and these things got out of hands quickly. But it did only get the one.

[lifeofadeathseeker]

...well I would say my point exactly but then you threw freezing mice in.

[championofsnark]

Yes! They were mice that froze everything they touched. Including entire people and animals. And then you started to suffocate, which was not at all fun.